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Dating: Long Distance
PLEASE READ! Long distance relationships are not what they are portrayed to be. They are not as hard, emotionally draining, or as impossible as people assume. Right now, I am living 3 hours away from my boyfriend (who plays a varsity sport). We see each other once or twice a month. We are both happy, both with room to live our own lives but always being able to catch up at the end of the night. We still love each other, nobody has been unfaithful, and it is relatively easy. The time we spend together is always quality time, and I do not regret staying with him.If you love someone and think you they could be the person for you, go for it. The worst that could happen is that it doesn't work out and you part ways. It is entirely possible, do not give up just because of what you THINK might happen.

Pros of a long distance relationship...
1. The time you spend together is really exciting and precious
2. You have the freedom to be yourself and make friends on your own terms
3. You always have lots to talk about with your S/O because you're apart during the day
4. It tests whether the relationship is really worth it
5. Meeting their new friends means more friends for you!
6. Sex/physical intimacy is so much better when you've been waiting for it
7. It will show you how much your partner really values you
8. You don't need to pick between your friends and partner during the week
9. It helps keep you focused

I hope that this helped anyone that needed to hear it.
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Laurier BBA vs UChicago Booth MBA
After graduating from the Laurier BBA, I enrolled in the UChicago Booth part-time MBA. I must say, the difference is night and day. The quality of education at Booth is significantly higher than at Laurier. Some of the key differences
- Your classmates at Booth will be much more motivated and intelligent. This is important because a big part of the value-add of business school is the network you'll develop
- The program is much more rigorous. The faculty at Booth is much more talented, with the highest number of Nobel Laureates of any business school in the world who often wrote the textbook. The professors here don't shy away from the underlying hardcore math, whereas Laurier dumbs the material down and makes you just memorize formulas. For example, for the technology adoption cycle, the Booth professor explained that adoption follows a normal distribution with the early majority and late majority making up +/- 1 standard deviation whereas at Laurier, we were just taught that "most people" fall into the early or late majority. Also, Laurier taught me the time value of money like 4 times whereas at Booth it's just assumed knowledge because it's such a simple concept after you learn it the first time.
- There's a lot of bullshit courses in both schools like "competitive strategy" or "corporate governance" and all of operations and human resources but I think BS is just a part of business school (that's why BS also stands for business school) but the difference is that Laurier forces you to take the BS classes whereas Booth gives you much more leeway to tailor your curriculum
- Unlike Laurier, Booth has actually quantitatively rigorous classes like business statistics and Analysis of Financial Time Series whereas I took a data science class at Laurier and it was not well organized. I think Laurier was trying to build out its quantitative offering right as I was about to graduate so things may have changed

Laurier has its bright spots, like the Laurier Student Investment Fund (LSIF), but that was about it.
I almost wish I did a purely technical undergrad (I was double degree computer science with Waterloo) and just did an MBA at a top business school afterwards. Of course, it's unfair to compare a top 5 business school in the US with a top 5 business school in Canada - Booth has significantly more financial resources at its disposal.
AMA: Brock BAcc Graduate, Carleton MAcc Graduate, Big 4 Employee
My name is Neal, and I graduated from Brock's Bachelor of Accounting Co-op program in 2016 and Carleton's Master of Accounting program in 2017. I was a yconic Student Ambassador for 2016-17. Although I work full-time at PwC now, I'm still around answering questions about accounting as a career and universities. 

My co-op work experience includes:
-Corporate Accounting, Henkel (Germany)
-Assurance and Tax, Collins Barrow
-Risk Assurance, Ernst and Young

I currently work at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Assurance. . 

A snapshot of my time at Brock:  
-Served as an executive for several clubs  
-Participated in numerous internal/external case competitions and conferences  
-Served as a Tutorial Leader for Brock's first-year Macroeconomics course  
-Inducted into Beta Gamma Sigma (the top 10% of Goodman get invited)  
-Did co-ops and internships with 3 different companies in corporate accounting, assurance, tax and risk assurance located in Germany and Canada  
-Participated in a short-term exchange to France  
-Volunteered for the business school's Career Services office, where I critiqued students' resumes  
-Lived in residence (first-year) and off campus

A snapshot of my time at Carleton:  
-President of the Sprott MAcc Society  

Feel free to ask me questions below! Or you can add me on LinkedIn if you'd like to send a private message (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nsengupta).
Is Queen’s relatively diverse or is it mostly just white people?
Sorry if the title sounds a bit rude, I don’t have any bad intentions with this.

I am considering going to Queen’s for business. I visited the campus a few months ago and it just seemed to be a sea of white people. A few brown people here and there and almost zero Asians. Not that there’s something wrong with that, it’s just that I grew up surrounded by so many different cultures and i’d love to be surrounded by people I can relate to.

I know people will get mad at me for this but if it’s almost all white people I don’t think it would be a very welcoming environment. I would feel like an outsider. As individuals they can be absolutely AMAZING people, but as a whole young white people are plain entitled, insensitive and just too “wild”. I’m not just pulling that from stereotypes either, i’ve watched it unfold in my daily life and those characteristics come up consistently in young white kids. Again, not ALL of them are like that, just as a collective.

I know this all sounds ignorant but I’d love if someone could provide some insight into what diversity is like at Queen’s.
Health Science/ Life Science Hopefuls
Those of you going into grade 12 this September and want to go into life/health sciences,  which universities are you going to apply to and why? what's your career goal? 
I'd love to hear your responses!

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Med school ABROAD!
What are your guys' opinions on pursuing medical school abroad in places like St Georges, Saba, Australia, USA etc... ??

Cause if I didn't get accepted to med school in Canada, I'm strongly considering going abroad, and definitely staying there (cause it is sooo hard, I've heard if you try to come back to Canada after completing med school somewhere else)

Do you guys think that's wise? Anyone with experience?

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5th Year Brock BBA/BAcc Co-op student, ask me anything! (IB and Big 4 Co-op)

I'm basically always on here so figured might as well make one of these and help out any prospective students.

- First 2 years spent as BBA Co-op student, secured first coop term through BBA
- Transferred into BAcc Co-op after 2 years
- Currently DONE school

You kinda get the best of both worlds since I have been in all (both) the programs offered at the Goodman School of Business!

And since I know these are gonna be popular Qs:

- Avg (both major and overall) ~80%
- ECs: Leadership position in a club, some entrepreneurial stuff, sports stuff
- Work XP: General accounting internship at no-name organization doing very basic stuff, manual labour

Since attending Brock, I have received interview requests from:

Company / Quantity / (Co-op vs summer intern, Location) 

RBC x 3 (Various positions, co-op x2 and summer intern x1, Toronto)
Big 4 Audit x3 (1x Co-op and 1x Summer intern, Toronto...1 x Co-op in Calgary)
Big 4 Summer Leadership Conferences x2 (Toronto)
CPP Investment Board x2 (Summer Analyst, Toronto)
Scotiabank (Co-op, Toronto)
Grant Thornton Audit (Co-op, Toronto)
Canadian Tire (Co-op, GTA)
Ontario Securities Commission (CPA position, summer intern, Toronto)
Mercedes-Benz Financial Services (Co-op, GTA)
TeamBuy .ca (Summer intern, Toronto)
Imperial Oil (Co-op, Calgary)
Suncor (Co-op, Calgary)
Regional CPA firm (Co-op, Hamilton area)
Small CPA firm (Co-op, Niagara region)
Publicly traded minerals company (Co-op, Toronto)
OMERS Pension Fund (Co-op, Toronto)
Big 5 Canadian Bank Capital Markets x2 (Co-op, Toronto)
Husky Energy (Summer intern, Calgary)
Accenture Consulting (Full time, Toronto)
McKinsey Consulting (Full time, Eastern Europe)

- Rejected from BAcc Co-op
- Accepted to BBA Co-op with 83.5% top 6

- Joined B4 Audit in January 2016
- Done 8 months of co-op, not at an accounting firm
- Major average ~85, overall ~80+
- ECs, unchanged from when applying to first co-op
- Completed a couple certificates in excel

- Get public accounting experience somewhere else. This is basically a must. I believe I was the only upper year hired from my school into B4 this past term without prior public experience. It's something I noticed during recruiting
- If you have the above, grades matter a bit less. Yes you still want to do as best as you can, but a high 70 is OK enough if you have prior XP. An 80+ is still ideal though
- Be prepared to explain why you left your previous employer (and don't speak poorly about them)

That's basically it. So feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer your Qs as best as I can!

*Even if nobody has posted in this topic for a while, feel free to do so, chances are I'm still lurking on here

Help with Architectural Engineering University Degree in Ontario
Hello!!  I live in Canada and I have a friend who is interested in coming to Canada from Greece and going to university.  She is currently doing an architectural engineering degree in a university in Greece, but we do not know what she should do next in a university here in Ontario.  We have no idea which universities to look at, but we would like something that has cheap international student fees, international student scholarships, ans that is good for her architectural engineering.  Where could she go and what degree could she do after the ones she does in Greece??

Thanks guys ^~^
Brock BBA (co-op) vs Bacc (non co-op)
Hello everyone, 

I am an international student, and I applied to Brock's Bacc (co-op) only to realise that for some strange reasons, they don't allow international students for accounting co-op program. Saying that, I am left with two possible options:

Bacc non co-op
BBA co-op with majors in accounting

I know my goal is to pursue CPA but I also realise that co-op is very important. So how should I go about it? I think Brock is most famous for their Bacc program but in BBA, I'll get co-op. Please help me out as I can't think of what should I do!
U of T vs York
I need to decide on a school ASAP.
I got into UTSC and York (Glendon) for Psychology. I think that UTSC has a better program since it is part of UofT and the degree is Honours Bsc. Glendon is a bi-lingual school and is situated closer to downtown Toronto than UTSC. Also, I will be living on res and I heard that UTSC is very dull and boring. Is this true? If If I live on res is there still a chance for me to have a decent social life?
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Help: Laurier Bba/ Fin math VS western bmos (no aeo)
Please help me with this, only a few days left to decide!!!
Welcome any upper year or future student to answer.

I have admitted to both programs, my question is 

1 What is the difficulty to get in Ivey compare with to get a decent coop in Laurier?
Which is likely to get a higher GPA?

( Non aeo is about 1/3 chance to get in Ivey, GPA about 85%,  3 excellent EC's)

( Laurier coop require an about 10/ 80-85% GPA, some EC's and work experience is ok.
2017 admission coop is 8.7, 2018 expect about 9.
Bba student coop average overall is 10.4)

2 Which school offers better EC's, business clubs or leadership opportunities? 

[Going into science] I have until May 26 to decide. Should I go to McGill’s Science Program OR Queens Science? Heard that McGill has a good, but hard/competitive program, whereas Queens also has a difficult program, but not as rigorous as McGill. Need help ASAP, Thank You.
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Deadline Approaching: Schulich IBBA vs Ivey AEO
Hey guys, I got accepted to both Schulich IBBA and IVEY AEO. I'm absolutely torn and the deadline of June first is coming quickly. 
I believe Schulich slightly has the better program and is much cheaper. I'm not a fan of the 2+2 program at Western. If I go to western how is the BMOS program for the first two years before Ivey? I'm also considering doing a dual degree of Ivey and psychology or simply doing social science for the first two years before entering Ivey. I'm looking to becoming an entrepreneur. 
I have also heard that the social life at Western is amazing. I didn't have the best high school experience socially so I'm looking to study hard but to also have some fun. York is a commuter school and even though I live close, I would want to live on residence. I know the social scene isn't as great as western's but is it really that bad? 

Schulich: Better overall program (not by much) and costs much less. 
Ivey AEO: Better social scene and environment. 

Any thoughts and opinions will be much appreciated. Thanks. 
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Read this if you're going into a business program
hey guys, im a first year student at schulich, and i was probably in your place last year, stressing about ec's and averages, spending hours on this forum.

i know you guys are all smart, ambitious kids, wanting to get into queens, ivey, rotman, schulich, laurier, waterloo etc. I'm writing this post because I want to inform you guys on a few important insights that I gained only AFTER i started first year. 

1) Your program does not make or break your career
- this is so important for some of you to understand. yes queens is good, yes ivey presents opportunities in finance, but at the end of the day, your success is up to your GRIT, your determination, ability to consistently motivate yourself, pick yourself up after failure, and learn from mistakes. Your success in business depends on your ability to be extraverted, outgoing, enthusiastic. It depends on your ability to hold a pleasant conversation with people you just meet (NETWORKING). sure, a top program will provide you fantastic resources, but please please don't obsess over your program if its already between the top schools. also don't be condescending to people who choose to go to a program that YOU deem a lower tier than yours. those people may have traits that you don't have that will make them better students than you are.
this being said, i still want to give advice on HOW to choose your program, given that a lot of you will be receiving multiple offers. 
2) choose your program based on multiple factors, and choose wisely.
if you're SET on accounting, go to AFM (or even brock). big 4 love waterloo students.
if you're going into finance, in my opinion, your program doesn't matter a lot, u just have to have a crazy high gpa and be a very specific type of person (super driven, smart, sociable). but a lot of people interested in finance choose ivey, so u'll definately find a bigger finance community at ivey and queens than at schulich or afm. i don't know much about finance at laurier and rotman.
if you are undecided, which is probably the majority of you, i'd recommend to choose based on the experience you want out of university. Do you want to party and get out of town and away from your parents? choose ivey, queens or laurier. do you want a coop program so that you can alternate between work and school? choose afm or laurier (i highly recommend coop programs) do you want to stay at home and save money? choose schulich. do you want to drop out and hate life first year? choose rotman... haha i'm just kidding. for real though, rotman kids seem to have it SUPER tough and i already know a lot of people regretting rotman because their gpa's are really low, theres no coop, and the environment i heard is kind of hostile. but if you do choose rotman and end up graduating from there it is really impressive. everyone knows how hard rotman is. people who choose rotman tend to be the people whoare super ambitious and/or really idolize living in downtown. 
3) be conscious of your mental health
so on a very serious note, i know of a few business students right now that have depression that developed in first semester. i want to you to know that university is a whole different ball game. it really challenges your ability to push through some really tough times. you could be going through a break up and have 4 midterms in a week. please know your limitations. if you know you are not good at handling stress, and you break down very easily, i would recommend staying close to home. i know so many people who moved away and once frosh and all the partying ended, they started to get really homesick, and the homesickness did not go away. of course this isn't the case for everyone. however, as a business student, you're gonna go through a lot of stress. business isn't just about school grades, it's about building this personal brand also. it consumes so much of your life. if you have a life established back at home, e.g. you're a competitive dancer, you go to church, i'd say not to give that up and choose a program close to home so you can continue pursuing that passion. trust me, it's not smart to have your whole identity and purpose in school and your success in it. it's not healthy, and if things start going south, you'll lose hope in life very quickly.
4) more about schulich
since i go to schulich, i wana talk a bit more about it. social life in terms of partying and meeting a ton of people is gonna lack compared to those who move away, but again, if you have a life outside of school in toronto, it won't really matter. plus, if you're super outgoing and friendly, you'll make friends. don't choose this school if you want a traditional university experience. i do want to put it out there that you shouldn't put too much value on social life because you don't want to be someone who moves away from home for the social aspect and your grades fall into the 60s because you don't have self-control. at the end of the day, you're going to school for education and opportunities in business. 
the academic aspect is ok. don't slack on readings, do practice questions, and study in advance for things and you will do fine. schulich courses are curved, so be higher than average and you're blessed. there are some bullsh courses in first semester, but just push through them. 

there's so many topics to talk about and so much advice i want to give... but i can't collect all my thoughts rn. if you guys have more questions please post them and ill get back to you!

here's another piece of advice i just thought of: when you're choosing your program, look at the actual program courses. compare them across programs and see which courses seem more appealing to you. you obviously won't know that much about the course just by its name but if you have friends in the program ASK about those courses. make sure u choose the program that have courses that seem interesting to you and suit what you want to learn.
this is especially helpful if you dont know whether to go into  (for example) a business program or an art program. which seems better to you? intro to accounting or design studio?
be as informed as possible before making your decision.
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Decision [URGENT]
the June 1st deadline is approaching quickly and I still have not decided where to go. Where should I go? McGill Science, Queens Science or Ottawa U. Note: I have a friend telling me to come to McGill with him, and my parents are telling me to go to Queens since my sister is already there. Anything is appreciated.
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2018 Western AEO Ivey vs. Queens Commerce
I know this topic is always talked about, but I couldn't really find anything more recent than 2015, and I was wondering if there were any interesting perspectives to consider; Ex. the increasing number of students being accepted w/ AEO and if that impacts school reputation. 

Also I'm not sure what I wna be. I'm thinking about investment banking cuz tht 90K+ starting salary is very appealing, but I also know that being an ibanker and getting that salary is only going to the top ~10% of the class. So i'm open to pretty much anything at this point. 

Anyways, which school is better?
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Where should I go?
I'm having a tough time deciding where to go. Can you guys give me opinions based on experience and facts?

I have been accepted into 

Laurier Econ BA
Western BMOS (No Ivey yet)
McMaster Business I
Brock BBA with Co-op

I am waiting on

UTSC Co-op Management and International Business
Laurier BBA

I have a 90.16 average.
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Brock BBA Co-op
Brock's BBA Co-op program seems amazing and offers much more hands on and experiential learning than prestigious programs such as Queen's Commerce and Schulich. Why is the admission average required so low? People with low 70s and 80s are getting accepted, which makes me feel like there is a catch to it all. Can someone explain?
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Laurier BBA or York Bcom ?
My average is 90 average right now. I got accepted from York for their Bcom program.  My plan is to get my CPA and start my own business after graduation. Deciding between York or Laurier BBA. 

Pros of York Bcom - Toronto, possibility of high GPA, Cheap, Lot of south Asians,  Save money, International Reputation
Cons of York Bcom - Overshadowed by Schulich in terms of opportunities, Student satisfaction 

Pros of Laurier - Has Co-op, Lot of opportunities, Students Satisfaction
Cons of Laurier -  Expensive if you include residence, Risk of not getting Co-op, International reputation, Not many south asians, Outside of Toronto

Any suggestions? 
Brock BBA co-op
Is brock bba coop a good program, i got accepted there and i was thinking of accepting my offer. Will it be easy to get jobs with this program in the future or no. I know it is bad compared to other programs but I just wanted to know how easy it will be to get a job with this degree in the future (assuming you have very good grades) on a scale of 1-10
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Queen's Uni Life Science vs. Western Medical Science
My friend and I both got into Queen's Uni Life Science and Western Medical Science. We both really want to go to Queens because it's a great environment, we got good scholarships and the programs are super great but Western's Life Sci is one of the best programs we know of. Any thoughts on what we should do?